Music has always touched our lives in ways that go beyond
being entertainment. It inspires. It can
boost our energy or relax and heal us. It has long
been used as a therapeutic tool and a mode of communication
between individuals, tribes, and nations. Music
and movement have long been used to free us up and shake
us down, but the idea of using music in the framework
of a motivational or self-improvement presentation hasn't
been explored very deeply.
Ravel first came to
the attention of contemporary jazz fans when his debut
solo album,
Midnight Passion was
released in 1991. The song "Inettes Forest" is
still a smooth jazz playlist staple. He released
Sol
to Soul a few years later, then in 2001,
his self-titled GRP release delivered the #1 hit, "Sunny
Side Up." He joined Sergio Mendes' band when
he was 23 and has collaborated with an array of musical
stars including Herbie Hancock, Madonna, Jennifer Lopez,
and Prince. He was also the musical director for
Earth, Wind and Fire and later for Al Jarreau. He
has recently been playing keyboards with Carlos Santana,
performing as a solo artist, and with various contemporary
jazz stars in the Los Angeles area, and focusing a lot
of his heart and energy on developing "Tune Up To
Success."
I became fascinated with "Tune Up..." when
it was in the developmental stages during the early part
of the decade. If there was ever a case of someone
being destined to do something, Ravel was the perfect
artist to create an interactive presentation that used
music to motivate, inspire, educate and empower. Combine
his musicianship and ability to play everything from
classical to salsa to jazz with his personable stage
presence and the ability to enter the realm of motivational
speaking without sounding smarmy or fake and he is a
living illustration of the thought he presents in this
conversation - that we all have unique talents and gifts,
things that we do well because it is what we were cut
out to do them.
This conversation is a holiday gift for you, the
reader. As we enter the second decade of the 20th
century we have a lot to think about, a lot to do, and
there is much that is in need of change. Ravel's
perspective is beautiful and very much based on music,
spirituality, and the need for us to listen and connect
with each other. He was gracious enough to fit
this conversation into his schedule with very little
notice on a Sunday morning when he was getting ready
to leave Las Vegas after a one-month gig playing with
Carlos Santana. As expressive and articulate as
he is, I pretty much just dropped a few questions in
and let him run with it, and share his thoughts and intentions,
doing what the Tune Up presentations
urge us to do: listen.
SmoothViews (SV) : How did the idea for "Tune
Up" come about?
Freddie Ravel (FR): It all happened
in the summer of 2001. I was touring with Al
Jarreau, and we were in Tunisia at the time. I
got a fax from my manager saying that "Sunny
Side Up" had hit #1 in the United States on NAC
radio. It was the first time that one of my own
pieces of music from my own album that I had produced
myself hit #1. It was very exciting. I
had this walking on clouds feeling for about a week,
then I hit the big "now what?" - that
feeling that this is really cool and wonderful, but
what's next? That really hit me hard. Then
we were in Tunisia playing "Take Five' in front
of an audience that was entirely Arabic, Muslim, and
filled with love in their eyes. I had my eyes
closed and I was playing. It's a very deep moment
when you're digging into that groove with Al Jarreau. I
opened my eyes and saw about 1,000 people in the crowd
with their eyes closed and their hands up at face level
holding their palms up to us as if they were receiving
nectar of the Gods. I thought, "here I am
playing classic American jazz in this country, and
they are receiving it like one of the greatest gifts
in the world." Then three months later 9/11
happened. Then later that year I went to South
Africa to play Johannesburg and Capetown, and learned
that 9/11 wasn't in the headlines there. It
was all about AIDS because at that time 1 out of 6
people in South Africa had contracted AIDS - some outrageous
figure like that. Then, when I got home, my wife
came to me and said, "Honey, we're going to be
parents."
All of that happening within the
span of about five months led me to think that I really
needed to do something far more serious than making
a CD, working to get it on the radio, and going out
and doing gigs to have fun and promote it. I
love that. I've dedicated my life to that. But
now I have to live for something bigger. I wanted
to merge my spiritual belief system with my professional
journey - my career and my music and everything
I've learned from these masters I've worked with. When
you work with Al Jarreau, Bobby McFerrin, Carlos Santana,
Sergio Mendes, Earth Wind and Fire - all these different
people that I've had the honor to play with - you start
to see patterns that all these artists use that lead
to success. You start to see what they write
in their lyrics, what they sing about, what chords
they use, what rhythms they use. I've been creating
music for so many years with such a high caliber of
people, I started thinking about how great it would
be if I could distill what I've learned from them,
and what I've learned on my own journey. I wanted
to pull certain properties of the core basics of music
and use them in a way that people could apply to their
daily life in a personal way and a professional way. That's
what led to my decision to do something significant
with this and throw my whole energy and soul into it.
SV: You were coming off a #1 chart hit. Did
you intend to put your career as a solo artist on the
back burner?
FR: I knew I was going to keep writing
music and making music, I love doing that. But
I wanted to pull the elements of music from all genres
- from classical to funk, to rock to salsa, you name
it - and show people that there are lessons in this
music that can help us be more effective. The
area I decided to focus on is the art of listening. We
listen to music with a very special kind of ear. Our
ears are very attracted to it and so are our souls. It's
in our DNA, how we feel cosmically about music. Whether
we are dancing and shaking to a good groove or sitting
still with the headphones on, it affects how we feel
in the heart, in the solar plexus, all the way into
the seventh Chakra, the third eye. I wanted to
touch the full range of emotion from the physical,
to the spiritual, to the mental aspects of music, and
reveal something that was so unique, and yet so elegantly
simple, that anybody could hear music with a new set
of ears. Then they can find that there
is something inside of any song that they choose to
listen to that has a bigger benefit than just making
them snap their fingers and bob their heads. That
there is something else in it that can help them become
better people.
SV: From getting this idea how did you
actually bring it into being? You are talking
about mixing these elements, bringing it into being,
and you have to become a public speaker, which requires
an entirely different skill-set from being a performing
musician.
FR: When you put out the intention
that you are going to do something, and you put it
out big, the universe responds. That's what
happened. Very shortly after, I made that decision
to go forward with this I was invited, out of the blue,
to be a speaker. I had never been invited to
be speaker before. This was in a forum with
two other prestigious speakers. One of them was
Dennis Tito, the man who gave the Russians 20 million
dollars to be the first space tourist. Neither
of the speakers were music-related and I was speaking
after him. I had titled the program "The
Music In You." I spent a couple of months
writing the speech and creating the content. When
I did it, I had a grand piano with me. I stood
up, walked around the room, then went back to the piano
and played different types of music that fit the messages
I was sharing. When it was over, I had people
telling me they learned more about music from that
presentation than they had in their whole lives. Some
of them invited me to speak to other groups.
At
that point, I felt like I had to develop this into
something. Then later that year I got contacted
by the Washington Speakers Bureau. They asked
me to come speak for the Grocery Manufacturers Association. These
were people that run companies like Del Monte, Coca
Cola, and Wal-Mart. They weren't musicians, they
were business people who made or distributed food. It
was the first time I had ever been a professional presenter. I
presented "Tune Up To Success." They
loved it. Because of that, we got endorsements
from a variety of top corporate entities including
Wal-Mart, of all things (laughs). This was at
the end of 2002. Within the first year, we had
picked up some significant traction. I began
to do this for many different types of organizations. I
did it for some corporations, I did it for a group
of nurses, then I was invited to do it at the Berks
Jazz Festival.
SV: People who are doing motivational presentations
seem to focus on either doing a standard corporate "up
and at'em" type program or work solely with individuals
in a coaching situation. How did your path lead
to presenting to such a wide range of groups?
FR: I began to connect with some people
who really inspired me. If you go back to my
album, Sol to Soul there's
a song that I wrote with Deepak Chopra. That's
a relationship that began in 1993 when he was a practicing
endocrinologist who had just written the book "Perfect
Health" about Ayurvedic medicine. I was
working with Earth, Wind and Fire as their musical
director and his publicist introduced us. He
wanted to write a piece of music with me so we put
together "Slip In The Gap," which is on the
album. I was also getting to know Marianne Williamson. I
had heard her speak and she used to come to the Baked
Potato to listen to my band. She's really into
music, she was in vocal groups before she came to California. I
had always had my foot in the door of defining the
word "namaste," defining the word "love," and
finding out how that applies to my life. That
has been a backdrop for me since I was in my early
twenties and it is the foundation for "Tune Up
To Success." My parents were a big influence
too. My father was raised Jewish and my mom was
Catholic. I was raised in a broad, open-minded
setting where they wanted me to experience those faiths
and exposed me to others as well. My father exposed
me to Ba'hai, he exposed me to Unitarian Universalism,
he took me to all these gatherings to make me aware
of them so I could choose the paths I wanted to take.
Music just fit into this. A consistent aspect of my journey in
music has been being the connector-bridge guy. It happens in my life
again and again. When I joined Sergio Mendes, I was a 23 year old American
kid playing Brazilian music. I toured Japan with groups of Japanese musicians. When
I joined Earth Wind and Fire, I was the only white guy. When Al Jarreau
first called me, it was to write a piece of music with a strong salsa
energy - the song "Tomorrow, Today," and that's what led to us touring
and working together. With Earth Wind and Fire it was the song "Honor
The Magic," which was the first Salsa they ever did and that's how I ended
up playing with them. Now I'm playing with Carlos Santana who is all
about bridging everything spiritually and musically. All those pivotal
things that happened to me in 2001, combined with my exposure to so many different
spiritual paths by my parents, getting to know Deepak Chopra and Marianne Williamson,
and having a career as a solo artist and as a collaborator with so many other
artists has given me this duality about how I've done things. That was
the setup for the work I wanted to do and present with "Tune Up."
SV: The framework of the presentation seems to be the blend of
three elements: Melody - what's your song, Harmony - what can we do together,
and Rhythm - how do we pace ourselves. I was listening to a conversation
you had with another interviewer and she brought up the fact that most of us
are not in touch with our own melody?
FR: Most people aren't. A CNN poll showed that 83% of
Americans don't like what they do for a living and there's a Gallup poll showing
that says 26% of Americans feel engaged in what they do. So that's 74%
that don't.
SV: When was this poll taken? I'm asking that because what
seems to be happening now is a lot of people are being laid off from the professions
they loved and were engaged in and are having to take other jobs just for an
income while they freelance or do part-time work in their chosen fields. That
has happened a lot to people who were in radio or worked for record companies,
it's also happening to teachers, pretty much people in all fields.
FR: These are fairly recent. The Gallup was
within the last two years. There is a tremendous transition going on
right now but what I am seeing is that people who do what they love do very
well. They have a barometer of success that is very good because it's
real. It's who they are. They may be in a path where they aren't
making the kind of money they want to make, but their happiness index is more
stable than people who are loaded financially. This gets back to the
melody factor. Melody is about finding all the things that really excite
you and make you thrilled to get out of bed in the morning. They are
usually purpose driven.
The key to making it work is, to me, summed up
with a great saying by Aristotle, "Where your talents and the needs of
the world intersect, there lies your vocation." That is really important
because all of us have unique gifts and unique talents. There are certain
things that each one of us do better than almost anyone else is because we
are cut out for these things. The tricky part is that if you identify
your talents but then invest them in areas where the world doesn't have a need
for them you won't have a job. If you find a place where you can use
your talents to address a need, then you're working.
There are so many
needs for so many things that I believe everyone can find work and value with
their talents. They may have to travel, they may have to modify the way
they manage their time, but there's a way to do it. It could be a huge
massive agenda like addressing the hunger in the world and work with a soup
kitchen or food distribution organization, or they might have a gift for managing
people and end up in an HR situation where they help people channel their abilities
into something meaningful, or it could be raising their kids to have a strong
value system and become effective human beings who make the world a better
place.
SV: So the element of harmony follows that idea of finding the
need that your talent fits then taking it into the realm where you are working
with others.
FR: Harmony is how you collaborate with other people,
it's a very important element. In music, when one melody meets another
that's enough information to know what the harmony is. Think of a Bach
two-part invention. There are only two voices playing, but as you are
hearing the piece you can hear all the different qualities of a chord. The
same thing happens when there are two singers. If two human beings come
together in their day to day lives there is a merging of melodies. If
they are really listening to each other and the conversation is productive
there is harmony occurring. It's a shared agenda, they are listening
to each other and acknowledging each other. There's a spirit of collaboration
happening. It's a win-win situation where each party is listening even
if one is shaking their head and questioning but still listening. That
means they are saying, "I don't totally agree with you, I may not agree
with you at all, but let me hear you finish what you want to say then I will
come back with my opinion and we can arrive at a compromise." I
would call that dissonance. In music when you are hitting a chord that
is dissonant, but you build the tension and hold on to it, then find a moment
when you can release it and resolve it, it creates the moments in all kinds
of music where the tears come out of people's eyes, where the hairs stand up
on people's arms. It's what makes a piece of music break through.
What if we start metaphorically thinking of music in
day to day life and have that tune in to how we listen
to each other? We could emerge with tools that
are going to carry it into the way you listen to your
peers, the way we listen to each other. It teaches
that there is potential for harmony in our social interactions. What
kind of world could we live in if everybody viewed every
day as offering a chance to make music in your own live. What
if you got up every morning and said that on this day
you were going to hold a conductor's baton to your life
and be open to singing your melody and expressing who
you are? Then beyond that, to make a commitment
to listen for other melodies to see how harmony can be
created.
SV: Then rhythm comes into play in the way we pace ourselves.
FR: Yes (laughs) you're getting it! Once you create
that harmony you have to find ways manage time so all the goals and things
I'm talking about in terms of harmony have a rhythm. If you have melody
and harmony but you don't have the rhythm, a drummer, things are not in synch. You
can set your intention, but without rhythm and time management, things fall
apart and don't get done. The drummer, for many people, is your to-do
list, your calendar, the way you organize your week. You need to have
the structure and boundaries if you want do what you want to achieve. You
can have great ideas and wonderful people in your life, you can know your own
song and have a lot of harmonic relationships but if you do something like
set up a meeting to make plans and either you or someone else doesn't show
then you're thrown off track and nothing happens. It's like a drummer
not showing up for the gig and everyone else trying to play without that. The
drummer within us is very important and a lot of people are negligent about
that point.
SV: I think a lot of that comes from the fact that we have demands
imposed on us by what we must do like what our job requires and our family
commitments then we impose more requirements and take on more commitments beyond
that and when you juggle too many plates you start dropping them.
FR: So one of the things to learn about is when to say no
(laughs) and when to say yes. You have to prioritize. That goes
back to knowing your melody and focusing on what you want to accomplish, not
just with your work but the time you need to commit to your personal relationships.
SV: I've been chasing you for a while trying to get you to talk
about both Tune Up and your music and there was a point where we were waiting
for you to record a new album and I was thrilled that you were willing to share
some of the ideas behind Tune Up with us. It seems like this presentation
is your niche, that you've been adding to it and refining it for almost a decade,
and your vision for it is expanding. Where do you see it going?
FR: My dream is for this to end up being an edutainment infotainment
entity that we launch on a much bigger platform and take everywhere. It
uses music - something we all have within us - as a tool to help us be
more effective in our personal and professional lives. My vision is for
this to open up a whole new viewpoint for the way we live, the way we act,
and the way we listen. The underlying agenda is to teach the art of listening,
which is summed up by the word empathy. If you have a tone and sense
of empathy in your interactions with people you are going to be a very brilliant
active listener. You are going to be really listening to what they say
and how they say it. You're going to be looking at their eyes, their
hands, and their body language. It comes down to the ability to walk
in another person's shoes. When you have a high level of empathy you
are drinking in life. You really savor what is happening around you and
you are living without judgment. That really heightens your ability to
create harmony because you are drinking in life experience. When you
are on stage playing with great musicians you are going out of your way to
become completely absorbed by the other musicians you are playing with and
how to support them. That's what I've always aspired to do. When
I'm playing music with people I'm thinking of how I can complement them and
the ways I can collaborate with them. The idea is to take that perspective
and bring that into the paradigm of listening in your everyday life. That
teaches empathy. When you live a life with an empathetic tone you begin
to practice Namaste consciousness, which is to say that "the light in
me recognizes and honors the light in you." That of course is pretty
much the golden rule of all the great faiths of the world. We are basically
teaching honor and respect of your fellow human being through music. And
to live in a state of gratitude.
When you approach life with a sense of gratitude in every
moment it's amazing what happens. It's amazing
how unexpected gifts keep coming forth when you are in
grace, when you are gracious, when you are grateful. Things
happen that are wonderful.
SV: And we are very grateful that you took time from your busy
schedule to share this with us!
Visit Freddie's website to find out more: www.freddieravel.com
Check out the video trailer for “Tune
Up To Success” on
YouTube