For anyone who’s seen saxophonist Paul Taylor
perform live, they know that he burns up the stage, as
reflected in the title of his eighth CD,
Burnin’,
released on July 21st.
Burnin’ is
a slight departure for Taylor, as the entire album has
a very retro feel to it, partly due to the fact that
Taylor plays tenor sax instead of his usual alto or soprano
saxes. It’s a great new sound for him, and to find
out more about the new CD, we caught up with Taylor backstage
before his July 9th performance at the Birchmere in Alexandria,
Virginia, where he co-headlined with Alex Bugnon.
Smoothviews (SV): Burnin’ has a very
retro, 70s feel to it. Was that the goal when you
first started writing the CD, or did it evolve that
way as you wrote?
Paul Taylor (PT): Exactly,
it’s the way it developed after the first day
or so. I had no idea it would take that little journey.
It’s a funny story how it started. I flew to
New York to write with Barry Eastmond in New York,
and I usually play alto and soprano sax, but I’d
gotten a tenor sax a few years ago and I’d been
working on that over the years, but not really revealing
it or playing it in public, so I figured it was time
now to at least bring it to the sessions and see what
happens because I was feeling good with the way it
sounded. On the plane, the soprano got bumped somehow,
I don’t know, in the bin, I don’t know.
It’s an anomaly. And when I took it out at Barry’s,
picked it up [mimics blowing on the sax with no noise
coming out], it wasn’t playing, air was leaking
out, I couldn’t use it. You get bummed out and
you can’t use what you wanted to use, so we said, “Well,
let’s get this tenor out and give this tenor
a try. Why not? I brought it all the way over here,
so we’ll try some stuff on tenor.” And
so we just started working on a song, and then another
song, and it was going good, and we had some good songs
and I felt really comfortable with the songs we were
writing, and so Barry just said, “Well, let’s
keep on going with the tenor sound.” So it’s
kind of like a retro, vintage kind of sound – retro,
old “back in the day” kind of sound, so
we just kept rolling with that. That’s how, basically,
we decided to go with that, and when I wrote with Rex
[Rideout] in L.A., I told him that Barry and I had
been writing on tenor, kind of like the vintage, old
school sound, so let’s kind of go in that direction,
and that’s how it got the sound it has.
SV: The songs on Burnin’ are produced
by Barry Eastmond and Rex Rideout, who you’ve
worked with several times in the past. What makes
them producers who you want to continue working with?
PT: They’re just such excellent
producers. They really don’t get in the way of…well,
they work really good at least with me – I know
they work really well with other artists too – they’re
just really good at what they do and make me feel really
comfortable. Just like a really good puzzle, the pieces
fit really good like that, and I just feel comfortable
writing with them. Say, if I get a little mind block
going on, in the meantime they can just hit the perfect
little thing or little phrase that gets me out of that
and keep on going with that. We just write really good
music together, so that’s how it works. It’s
all good!
SV: The song line-up on the CD alternates
back and forth between the Eastmond and Rideout songs.
Was that intentional?
PT: That was kind of organic too.
Over the years doing records, it’s like a big
thing who gets to sequence the record – what
song goes first, second, third, whatever. In my beginning
CDs, I got to do my own sequencing. Later on, with
Peak Records and Andi Howard, she took the reins on
one of the album, “No, Paul, I’m going
to work on the sequencing.” “OK, go ahead.” So
after that point, I just let them go ahead, and I just
did the best songs we could do and let them go ahead
and sequence it, find the single, and all of that.
It was a funny thing this time, when we went to the
mastering, we had no real order of sequence. I had
a loose one in my mind, but Rex had just made a CD
for the mastering engineer and just made a loose order.
At the mastering session, Andi was there, my manager
and Peak Records, and Rex came as well, and [Andi’s]
listening to it the night before, and goes, “Oh,
Paul, whoever sequenced this and made the order, it’s
great. Let’s go with that.” So that’s
how the order came on that one.
SV: You’ve consistently released a
CD every 2 years over the past decade. Do you ever
feel any pressure to keep up that pace, and if so,
how do you deal with the pressure?
PT: I think every two years is a really
good period of time. I don’t really feel rushed
at all. When the record comes out that first year,
yeah, that’s your new record and you’re
really going to be hitting the trail promoting it,
gigging, whatever. Then the next year, you know you
have another year to keep working it and ride on the
crest of the wave, and in the meantime you’re
going to be getting some stuff cooking for the next
project. I think it’s the perfect amount of time,
and I kind of like doing it like that. Before I leave
here, I want to have a lot of CDs out, so right now,
this will be the eighth CD, so that’s a good
period of time. There was one period of time between
my second and third CDs that went three years because
I had to switch labels, and sometimes when you’re
going through that, you don’t know if you’ll
ever get a shot to come back again. Everything worked
out good, and I got another label for, like, one album
on Undercover, and then went
back to two years in between again.
SV: You’ve avoided the trend that
many artists are following in putting out CDs consisting
almost entirely of cover tunes – you only have
one cover on Burnin’. What are your thoughts
about so many artists coming out with entire cover
CDs in recent years?
PT: I love doing original music, definitely,
because it’s coming from you or whoever you collaborate
with. I do like covers as well, but not a whole album
of them. I wouldn’t really rule out myself doing
one. I won’t say, “I’m never going
to do a cover album,” because, who knows, down
the road I might do that. I have one cover song on
a lot of my records, so maybe they’ll take all
those cover songs and could make one album off of that.
Generally, I think, you want to go original and maybe
just throw in one.
SV: You recently started doing some “Gentlemen
of the Night” shows with Michael Lington and
Marion Meadows. What are those performances like?
PT: They’re fantastic! I think
we’ve done three or four now, and we just kind
of got it off the block and rolling. It’s so
fun. No offense to all the other package tours I’ve
done, but this is probably the most fun I’ve
had so far doing any kind of package tour. Probably
because we’re all saxophone players, we’re
all around the same age, basically. We rehearsed the
tour the night before we did our first show in Stockton
[California], and fortunately, say you’re cramming
in college for a big test the night before, and you
wait too late and you just stay up all night and cram,
usually you don’t remember that much of it – at
least, I didn’t. In this case, the show went
great. Everyone hit all our little points we wanted
to do and stuff like that. It was really fun to do.
SV: Have the shows been well attended?
PT: They have been, yes. The one we
just did Saturday in Newport Beach [California] was
just about sold out.
SV: Are you bringing it East?
PT: We’re trying to get that
momentum. Like I just said, we’ve done three
or four, and we’re trying to tell everybody about
it and get the word out. Fred Hanson from APA, the
booking agent, he knows that we really want to keep
doing it and he’s heard all of the feedback,
so [leaning in to the microphone] Fred, get us more
gigs, get us more gigs. We’ll get that stuff
all going.
SV: What can we expect from your show tonight
with Alex Bugnon?
PT: Oh, it’s going to be great!
I’ve worked with Alex most of this year, and
we have a little deal. Since Alex is based here in
the east part of the country, that he brings his band
and I play with his band, and when we get some stuff
on the West Coast, we do the exact opposite. I’ll
get my band together and we fly Alex out, and we do
it that way. We really haven’t had any West Coast
dates yet; we keep coming out East and playing with
his band. I really love playing with Alex, and we’ve
played many times before on Summer Storm with Norman
Brown, his package tour. We just have a little more
chance to play together more. We’ve definitely
been vibin’ it really good, they play my songs
really good. Unfortunately, we didn’t really
get Burnin’ in from
the new album. So sorry. We’re just getting the
ones we have really tight now. We do “Ladies’ Choice,” and
then, like, my classics like “Pleasure Seeker” and “Exotica” and
one from Night Life which
is “After Hours.” And then we collaborate
on a cover song called “Yearn for Your Love,” you
know, a really classic song. He plays a couple, I come
in for a few. We do a little trade-off thing and then
just collaborate at the end. But it’s fun, you
know. So I have my PT shows, I have the Gentlemen of
the Night shows, and then I have the Alex Bugnon [shows].
So between those three, I’m just trying to make
it work and get out there, because the touring has
kind of dropped off, I’m sure for everyone, during
these economic times. Just trying to keep it going.
SV: We’ve discussed before the differences
in crowd reaction in different cities. How much of
a difference does the crowd really make to an artist’s
performance?
PT: That’s part of life sometimes,
you can never take something for granted, like that
everyone’s going to be cheering from the high
heavens from the first row. Sometimes you have some
obstacles to go by and you just have to deal with it
and keep your focus on what you’re doing, and
hopefully by the end of the show, they will be doing
that. By the end of the show, you’ll make some
believers out of it, and people won’t be gabbing
when you’re having a little soft passage and
all that, and not let it intimidate you onstage and
don’t let it throw you off your game.
SV: What’s next for you career-wise?
PT: I’m happy doing what I’m
doing, I just want to do more of it. I want to keep
on performing and keep on recording, and hopefully
get a lot of gigs. Let’s get back to the tour
bus days again, you know, where you just go out for
a month or so.
SV: Any of the cruises coming up for you?
PT: No cruises right now. I did do
one earlier, like a three-day Rippingtons Valentine’s
cruise with Jeff Kashiwa. Maybe I’ll get some
calls on that, hopefully, on the next one. I see on
some cruises, they’ve already got the 2010 ones
already booked. I wish I would’ve gotten a call,
[leaning in closer to the microphone], I wish I would’ve
gotten a call, hint, hint. But… We’ll
see. If some other cruises come out, maybe they can
put Paul Taylor on. If not, that’s alright, I’ll
stay on land, that’s cool.
Other than that, working on the technical, production
side, I’ve been trying to get my chops up producing-wise,
so maybe I can do like a Taylor-made CD.
SV: Oh, I like that!
PT: Yeah, you got it here first.
SV: I know you’re a big Denver Broncos
fan, so how do you think they’re going to do
this season?
PT: I’m going to back off on
the predictions because we lost our quarterback. We
got a new coach and then Jay Cutler, they butted heads,
and he split to Chicago, so I hope the best for them.
I’m going to be rooting for them, whatever happens.
When you lose your quarterback, you know… But
we got some other good free agents in the mix, so maybe
they’ll surprise everybody and walk away with
it this year, you never know.
SV: Well those are all our questions. Thanks
so much for making time for us.
PT: Oh, you guys are fun. Thanks.